Because you'll never understand.
I carry dreams inside a fist
While you hold cruelty in your hand.
I'm just going to stop trying.
Because I've been through so much hate
I've been through knives and ropes and scars
And wounds and blood and blades.
I'm just going to stop trying.
Because through all I've had to do..
The ignorance of people
Is the worst thing I've been through.
I'm just going to stop trying.
And you want to know the truth?
The reason I've stopped trying
Is because of those like
Before you start judging it.
Ignorance hurts just as bad sometimes.
Something I wrote pretty fast. Comments? I know I write a lot about depression, just.. it's a serious thing.
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I got kicked out of GIFTED because I was so behind in m,ath, why? HER FAULT "oh, you need help, your SO SMART ill ignore you and let you suffer from me being an a**" darkest time of my LIFE. cried every day, every hour. for one school year, I didn't even FINISH that year.
Please keep writing. The things you say give me hope.
I've dealt with depression on a 3rd person perspective, by helping others, since I've never really been depressed severely myself. I've been raised in such a way that depression is the man in the corner... almost; and that I rarely visit the guy. I know, that analogy was terrible. However..., the big however... I've been raised in a way of thinking. You've heard of Yin and Yang? Black and White? Start and End? Yes? The never-ending cycle that nature goes through in order to maintain balance.
Well, allow us to take this on. The aspect that there is an end to happiness and to depression and that both take their course in life over and over again. Now, note that I used the word severely when I mentioned that I've been depressed. So, then, when I have been mildly depressed, I've taken into consideration the cycle of nature that my depression will soon end and that it will return with happiness at one time or another. You can't have a lifetime of depression - nature would frown upon that - nature would try to make you happy.
Now, knowing this, and knowing that depression will eventually be surmounted by the proverbial iron boot of happiness, you can be happy, because depression is not eternal. Sure, depression is harsh, but to suffer now is to have pleasure later. So, to nature and this cycle, suffer with depression to have pleasure of happiness in the end and allow nature to take it's course.
If you know this, you will have the upper hand against depression!
By the way nice poem
I would write it a second time, and with greater enthusiasm, because I know, with my way of thinking, that when I get depressed I know that there will be pleasure at the end of it. There always has been a positive to my negative, without a doubt. What? Life is an endless ball of awakening destruction that has no U turn or no left or no right or no stop? It can't be. I couldn't accept that, and with anyone that has my way of thinking wouldn't accept it either. Now, I'll stop and leave it out there.
Also, read what I wrote. It was how I was raised to think when I had depression or had a similar experience of depression. I wish I was raised in the author's point of view to know how people deal with depression in their mindset, and obviously it's a bad experience. No doubt about it.
All I was doing was offering knowledge and understanding from my upbringing to those who had different upbringings but weren't learned what I learned. At least, as the probable open-minded person you are, consider such an alternative that negative implies positive and positive implies negative. Depression implies happiness and vice versa.
I'm not trying to sell you the idea or that what I jut said is the solution, but, in fact, play with it. Criticise it, test it, imagine it.
And by what I've just said, I didn't mean to offend anyone and I'm deeply sorry in advance if I did.
It may have been written quickly but it is still a good piece.
But I hope you know that those words would have hurt almost anyone who meant something like this. And I hope you know, that hurting someone could lead to more than just pain. It could lead to suicide.
And I hope you know... because of that, you would be an indirect murderer, in a way. So congrats on that.
Perhaps thinking before speaking is a bit more intelligent than you'd imagine.
Sorry for snapping.
In all seriousness though, people who are depressed should either learn to control the nagging presence of futility and emptiness, or they should just off themselves and be done with it. Sure, people can medicate and relieve the downs for a little while, but it doesn't cure depression. Only self control can stop depression in its tracks effectively.
This is just how it is. The only reason depressed people don't kill themselves is because they're selfish and fear the end of their ego.
In my opinion, there's no reason any person off of the street should say something like that. If DestroyErase was face to face with you, do you think they would have said that? Would I be saying this if I was face to face with you?... Wait, yeah, I might say something along these lines... Lol.
But my point is: Why do people suggest things like that over the internet to people who may be triggered very easily and could potentially end their lives without hesitation? I see no point besides the love of spreading hate and causing anxiety and/or suffering.
I love this poem, I felt it. Thank you for posting this.
I hope you see my point and aren't offended by it.
Believe it or not, every life on Earth has value. No matter how many people go against it, every time somebody picks up a gun, a blade, a noose, a little of Earth's value is gone. A lot of the people related to people I know who committed suicide were in the process of conserving wildlife and helping the Earth and good things like that before they offed themselves. That dropped Earth's value down more than it should have, and they offed themselves because people with attitudes such as yours told them things that triggered their depression.
I'm sorry if I cause offense, because I in no way mean to, but even if you were to off yourself, you, some of that value that Earth has would go down. It would matter if you blew your brains out. Just as it would matter if I blew my brains out, or if anybody here decided their life wasn't worth living.
No, believe it or not, you're talking out of your fucking ass. Nobody is inherently valuable to this world outside of their kin, who, same as any other life form on Earth, are also objectively worthless. Conserving wildlife and "helping" the planet does nothing in a long term scale of time. The world would already be fixing itself if we all stopped existing and gave it a break. Your friends and friends by extension were weak and succumbed to the reality they are broken and failures. They deserve death if they cannot handle being alive.
Nobody deserves death, in my opinion, until they have lived a long and full life. Have you ever experienced depression? Have you ever even experienced a nagging sadness? Because I have, and probably most of the Deviants on this website have, too. The way I take your last sentence is "If you're sad for a month, than you can go jump in a hole to die." and "If something unbearably bad happened, like your father dying, and you can't get over it, go off yourself, you pathetic excuse for a living being."
Listen, guy, I don't talk out of my ass. A small part of my opinion is based on a religion that I've never really followed. (Because I was born with two Catholic parents, I'm a default Catholic and I can't change that.)
Maybe if I ever by any chance see you or walking down the street, and you're going through depression, I can put the whole "I told you so" act on. Because you know what? If you ever get diagnosed with depression, maybe you will kill yourself. And maybe somebody else like you will laugh at your existence, and think about how funny death is, and what a laughable topic suicide caused by depression is. If you were a ghost condemned to stay on the Earth, you would see them laughing at the idea that you ever deserved to live, and maybe you may not be able to think, but maybe you could feel. Have emotions. And maybe depression follows ghosts condemned to Limbo. Who knows? But if it did, I would want you to just try and tell ghosts that were once like me or you how you felt about that. I want to know how angry it would make you to have people you didn't even know or have any connection to laugh at your death, and not give a shit about whether or not you believed you had any more right to the Earth than the rest of us.
Just because somebody's been depressed, they're broken? Lol. That cracked me up. I want to know how many suicides you've aided to because of your words. You really should start putting yourself in others' shoes. You have no idea how damn hard sadness and depression are to get through. You really don't. Maybe you should get that checked.
Again, my opinion, and I mean no offense. This is based off of the nearly nothing I know about you.
"Until they have lived a long and full life."
"Lived a long and full life."
I'm sorry, but I disagree with your views on the value of humans completely. I believe we are all worth something.
Just because they may be entitled to off themselves, doesn't mean people like you need to help them kill themselves. I believe it's cruel to help people take their lives, and by helping, I mean telling them it's okay and they should because they're worthless.
I'm alive right now because I don't make friends with people with your attitude. If I had, I would be dead. I'm thankful for my choice.
No offense again,
Sorry for the senselessness in the post lol I am tired. It's past midnight and I just got back from the movies. Funeral to attend. //shot
Goodnight, maybe I'll post something that makes more sense and is longer tomorrow.
Nobody deserves death, in my opinion
Senseless idealism. Not only does everyone deserve death, we're inherently guaranteed to succumb to it. Nobody has the right to live, it's just that we simply do. As I've already said, nature is only concerned that you die and your body goes back to the Earth. You, as the individual, do not matter, in the same sense that everyone else on this planet does not matter.
Just because somebody's been depressed, they're broken?
Are you really trying to say a mental disorder doesn't make a person broken?
I have only aided in helping people getting over how pitiful they are by telling them that they should spend their time on this Earth doing the things they like to do before they die. I've told them that they are worth nothing and that it is up to them to enjoy their time here while they can.
You have no idea how damn hard sadness and depression are to get through. You really don't.
Except I do lol. I've been diagnosed with depression in the past and I cope with it to this day. The only difference between myself and anyone else suffering from the same condition is just that I know how to control it and remain objective during the nagging sadness. I know how it feels to be down to the point of questioning your point on this planet, and if some people find suicide as the most appropriate escape from their depression, then they're perfectly entitled to off themselves.
but don't think of me as one. I'm NOT the bad guy ... I may have an attitude and maybe I haven't been the nicest ... but I'm NOT the bad guy
maybe a bit of an antihero but not the bad guy
I CAN BE a really nice guy at times BUT there are times in life you have to toughen up and don't take shit and that's my attitude
and that attitude IS WHAT SAVE PEOPLE LIKE ME so I DON'T become people like you
I don't know your whole story ... but "I've been there" or some of it .... the bullies, the depression ... lots of hard shit in the past and I came a long
way to get here. I don't know your whole story ... but I know I had what it took to get here
And man.. It's ridiculously hard to climb over this wall.